New Deathwing list

[chief]

Here's the new deathwing list after i seen how the old one done at rapid fire (any feedback welcome)

HQ
Belial 130
Pair of lightning claws Free 130

Troop
DW Terminator Squad 215
Assualt cannon 30 245

DW Terminator Squad 215
4 with lightning claws Free
1 with cyclone missle launcher 20 235

DW Terminator Squad 215
2 with Thunder Hammer and Storm Shields Free
3 with lightning claws Free
1 with cyclone missle launcher 20 235

DW Terminator Squad 215
4 with Chain Fists 20 235

DW Terminator Squad 215
Heavy Flamer 5 220

Elites
Dreadnought 125
Venerable upgrade 20
Plasma Cannon Free
Extra Armour 15 160

Heavy Support
Vindicator 125
Etra Armour 15
Dozer Blade 5 145

Vindicator 125
Extra Armour 15
Dozer Blade 5 145

Total = 1750

I decided to drop 1 squad of terminators to take a venerable dreadnought and after i had gave much needed upgrades to the dreadnought and the vindicators i found i had 20 points left, so i took a cyclone missle launcher in the thunder hammer squad, as i found out at rapid fire that squad spent the whole game chasing a falcon and got nowhere so a bit of range could have helped especially the fact it is strengh 8 and can quite easily damage it.

[gaarew]

That's not Deathwing, that is cherry-picked.

Unless they have radically re-written the fluff, Deathwing + Vindicators is just cheese. You should only be using HQ's, Dreadnaughts, Terminators and Land Raiders.

[Asurya]

Well said John.

[sholto]

Double Vindy is a good choice. I don't know how they worked for you in your other games, but they would have given my Tau suits serious problems without the Night Fight rule giving them cover all game long.

If you have to bring a Dread, that's the way to do it. Vens with EA, cover and smoke are almost impossible to kill. I am not a big fan of the plasma cannon, though. MEQ isn't your problem in this army, but you do lack weapons to pop armour at range so you can assault the juicy contents. I would suggest a multimelta. If you have the points, a HF helps trim those ork squads down (although the Power Klaw will still get you!).

A lone Dread is a bit isolated, although with the two Vindys people will be shooting him last. What is his role going to be? Stand back and shoot (in which case the PC beats the MM) or get stuck in?

Getting the shooting into your LC squad is a good idea. Those guys were stuck in our game, as they had no shooting at all. You should also get a chainfist in there, just in case a Dread assaults them.

I am not a big fan of the Cyclones, and tend to prefer Assault Cannons. More shots is always better imho.

I am not a fan of the 4 Chainfist squad, but I can see how much fun they would be in your typical IG or Ork Trukk parking lot. Very situational, though. I would try and mix it up a bit more.

Five Deathwing squads should be enough. It still gives you three for Deathwing Assault if you want.

While I am here, might as well give people palpitations. Have you considered drafting in some Inq Stormtroopers from the Inq codexes? Very cheap, scoring units that can be kept in reserve and brought on to secure home objectives. Give them a couple of meltaguns to keep tankshockers at bay. If your Dread is the stand-back-and-shoot type he can give them some serious protection as well as lay down the long-range fire.

Thanks for the game, by the way - it was great fun