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Post by Big Dog on Jul 28, 2011 9:19:26 GMT
Some of you might have seen the sign up sheet last week at the club for the Warhammer Invasion league. If you didn't don't worry you can sign up tonight or sign up here on this post. The league will be running from next Thursday the 4th of August and will run through until Thursday the 29th of September. The league rules are as following: 1. Games will be played best 2 out of 3 with the winner getting 1 point and the loser getting 0, however the margin of victory (either 3-0 or 2-1) will also be kept in order to break ties in the league position. 2. The league will played according to FAQ 1.5 so please read it, there will be a copy at the club and it can also be found here. www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/warhammer_lcg/support/1-4/wh-faq-1.5.pdf3. Decks must be as standard 50-100 cards. 4. You must use the same ONE faction in every league game but may change deck from game to game (including changing deck size). 5. Alliances are NOT allowed however neutral cards of Skaven, Lizardmen, Vampires, Wood Elves and Brettonia (e.g factions that do not have their own capital board) are perfectly fine. 6. You may not play the same opponent more than once in a league game. 7. You may play more than one game a week but your total played games may not exceed the amount of league weeks by more than 1. (e.g. it's week 4 and you've only played 2 game you could play 3 games that night, however you couldn't go over 5) At the end of the league the person with the most points will have the prestigious honour of being Stirling Wargamers first Warhammer Invasion champion and may even receive a fabulous prize. Also after league is done there will be a knockout tournament as well if people are interested in that. So get signing up and if you have any questions just ask here, pm me or see me at the club. David
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Post by Big Dog on Jul 28, 2011 9:24:39 GMT
Participants
1. David - Orcs and Goblins 2. Woostie - Dark Elves 3. Squinty - Orcs and Goblins 4. Stuart - Dark Elves 5. Wee Woostie - Dwarves 6. Donzo - Chaos 7. Gus - High Elves 8. Proffit - Chaos 9. Liddle - High Elves 10. Paul - Dark Elves 11. Fraser - Chaos
Final League standings after Week 9
1. Donzo - Points 10 Played 10, Won 10, Lost 0, Game Difference +24 2. Fraser - Points 7 Played 10, Won 7, Lost 3, Game Difference +8 3. Squinty - Points 5 Played 7, Won 5, Lost 2, Game Difference +5 4. Proffit - Points 5 Played 9, Won 5, Lost 4, Game Difference -1 5. Gus - Points 4 Played 8, Won 4, Lost 4, Game Difference +2 6. Paul - Points 4 Played 7, Won 4, Lost 3, Game Difference +1 7. David - Points 4 Played 9, Won 4, Lost 5, Game Difference -3 8. Liddle - Points 3 Played 9, Won 3, Lost 6, Game Difference -11 9. Stuart - Points 2 Played 5, Won 2, Lost 3, Game Difference +3 10. Woostie - Points 2 Played 10, Won 2, Lost 8, Game Difference -14 11. Wee Woostie - Points 0 Played 8, Won 0, Lost 8, Game Difference -14
NOTE: Rule 7 can now be ignored to make it easier for people to get games in during the last three weeks.
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PaleKing
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Post by PaleKing on Jul 29, 2011 11:03:25 GMT
Dave - I'm in. I'll decide a faction asap and let you know if that is ok?
For clarification : When you refer to alliances of Skaven, Brets, Lizards etc, these are not alliances. Those are neutrals. Alliances are I believe specifically faction alliances, which as I understand it are banned. It's just a clarity thing.
You refer to FAQ 1.4 - The FAQ is currently version 1.5. I assume that's what you mean?
Will the league be using tournament play rules from the FAQ/errata? Specifically this has a list of restricted (one card) cards. Tournament play also bans "Visit the Haunted City" I don't mind either way, just need to be clear.
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Post by PaleKing on Jul 29, 2011 15:30:21 GMT
Ps - I'll go Dark Elves please.
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Post by Big Dog on Jul 29, 2011 22:24:28 GMT
For clarification : When you refer to alliances of Skaven, Brets, Lizards etc, these are not alliances. Those are neutrals. Alliances are I believe specifically faction alliances, which as I understand it are banned. It's just a clarity thing. No problem originally I hadn't put in any rules about that but there seemed to be some confusion about it at the club with people unsure on whether Skaven etc. counted as allies so thought I better include to make sure. You refer to FAQ 1.4 - The FAQ is currently version 1.5. I assume that's what you mean? Gus printed out a few copies of an FAQ and we handed them out at the club, I think it was 1.4 but hopefully it was 1.5 as we want to be playing with the most up to date rules. Will the league be using tournament play rules from the FAQ/errata? Specifically this has a list of restricted (one card) cards. Tournament play also bans " Visit the Haunted City" I don't mind either way, just need to be clear. I've had to think about this and I've decided that the league should follow the restrictions set out in the FAQ so yeah we will be using the restricted card list. Ps - I'll go Dark Elves please. Cool that's you added in hopefully we'll see you on Thursday for the opening league night.
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Post by Asurya on Jul 30, 2011 0:03:27 GMT
Well the FAQ I printed out and gave to everyone at the club was v1.4 as that was the version I was asked to print out. Nothing nasty in that sentence above, it was news to me as well that v1.5 was available I'll have copies of v1.5 for everyone come Thursday night.
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Post by Big Dog on Jul 30, 2011 10:53:15 GMT
Well the FAQ I printed out and gave to everyone at the club was v1.4 as that was the version I was asked to print out. Nothing nasty in that sentence above, it was news to me as well that v1.5 was available I'll have copies of v1.5 for everyone come Thursday night. Yeah I was pretty sure that was the one I'd linked you to, I too thought it was the most recent version. That's great if you can get copies of 1.5 to the club on thursday.
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Post by lordsquinty on Jul 31, 2011 1:31:13 GMT
Well the FAQ I printed out and gave to everyone at the club was v1.4 as that was the version I was asked to print out. Nothing nasty in that sentence above, it was news to me as well that v1.5 was available I'll have copies of v1.5 for everyone come Thursday night. Yeah I was pretty sure that was the one I'd linked you to, I too thought it was the most recent version. That's great if you can get copies of 1.5 to the club on thursday. Then this should be postponed by at least a week to ensure everyone knows....!!! Cant make major changes the night it goes live... (from WHI 1.5 FAQ) Banned List The following cards are banned for LCG tournament play. A player cannot use these cards in his deck. 8 Visit the Haunted City I thought this was a fun friendly league not LCG tournament play?? Swap me to Orcs if thats the case and I'll swap to a proper no pals tournament list. Squinty PS.. If we're using tournie lists can we play more than 1 game a week then? )
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Post by Big Dog on Jul 31, 2011 1:55:16 GMT
Yeah I was pretty sure that was the one I'd linked you to, I too thought it was the most recent version. That's great if you can get copies of 1.5 to the club on thursday. Then this should be postponed by at least a week to ensure everyone knows....!!! Cant make major changes the night it goes live... (from WHI 1.5 FAQ) Banned List The following cards are banned for LCG tournament play. A player cannot use these cards in his deck. 8 Visit the Haunted City I thought this was a fun friendly league not LCG tournament play?? Swap me to Orcs if thats the case and I'll swap to a proper no pals tournament list. Squinty PS.. If we're using tournie lists can we play more than 1 game a week then? ) With the exception of you and Donzo I have every other participants mobile numbers so can text them in the morning to look at 1.5 meaning we shouldn't have to postpone. It is a bit unfortunate that we hadn't seen the latest FAQ but if you can let Donzo know then we all have at least 5 days to look it over online and build a deck. As far as following the tournament rules I'm not overly bothered either way and if I can get enough responses tomorrow to make a majority ruling then I'm happy to allow any cards just need to get enough replies tomorrow to allow everyone to get deck building before Thursday.
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Post by lordsquinty on Jul 31, 2011 10:28:35 GMT
Its fine David, the post sounds harsher than I actually meant it - need a breathalyser on my keyboard I'll let Donzo Know.
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Post by PaleKing on Jul 31, 2011 13:04:12 GMT
To my mind we don't need to use tournament rules. It's a local pal's league rather than a tournament. There is not too much difference anyway, just a list of cards that you an only have one of and one banned card.
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Post by Asurya on Jul 31, 2011 15:06:19 GMT
...and even though it is banned, reading the card it's hard to see why it causes so much fuss. You would need to play around that card quite exclusively to make it really do some dirty damage. I can see why the limited cards are limited though. Filling a 50 card deck with 3 copies of each is like having an unlimited overdraft at the bank.
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Post by lordsquinty on Jul 31, 2011 16:27:01 GMT
Its banned because having 3 of them in play along with the 3 Light of Morrsleib and 3 Verrenna spell that kills everything (as has been getting used in tournaments) in a zone makes it pretty nasty. (but as you say - needs deck management, luck to get the cards and time to build up) (Basically move 6 units or buildings a turn to one zone then destroy them all) The problem is more the Light of Morrsleib than the haunted City, as Im sure Donzo will demonstrate with 3 sorcerers of Tzeentch backed up by Morsleib...
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Post by primer on Jul 31, 2011 19:50:18 GMT
I play with a well balanced 100 card deck which relies alot on luck and i would be mocked at any tourny for such a large deck. Tzeentch sorcerers, yes it is a great combo but it is very rare i would get this- proven on thursday when i got it once in six games, one of the disadvantages in playing with such a large deck. I can see alot of smoke and mirrors here.
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Post by Big Dog on Jul 31, 2011 23:25:09 GMT
After getting feedback from most participants, we'll NOT be using the tournament restrictions. As I said above I wasn't too bothered either way but it's good to be able to reach a majority decision.
So the league will go ahead on Thursday with the above rules in place (note I changed rule 7 slightly to allow for a bit more flexibility but at the same time not allowing people to run away with the league when others haven't played as many games).
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