New standard size game for WFB?e

[PaleKing]

Hello all,
Having played a couple of games of 8th ed now it got me wondering what the new standard size game might end up being. The games seemed to trot along at a nice pace with no part of the turn getting too bogged down. Also with more destructive combats, more destructive spells and more destructive template attacks it might be that units are cleared off the table more rapidly than before.

For years we've played 2250 as a standard and I wondered if you thought that 2500 or 3000 might become do-able without becoming a chore.

On a related point, percentage restrictions for some options are as follows:

2250
25% - 562.5
50% - 1125

2500
25% - 625
50% - 1250

3000
25% - 750
50% - 1500

So it's really 3000pts before you'll see many gaffers on dragons cutting about. Any idea what you'd prefer?

[Asurya]

Well I'd imagine it'll be 3000 points to be honest. Players have spent their pennies on Lords on Dragons and they'll want to use them.

I'm back to square one with both my armies anyway, so it'll probably be a while before I can field a playable army.

[gaarew]

For me to get a monstrous Lord in my Troll list (Kholek/Galrauch) I'd need to play at least 2500 points, although, I'm leaning towards just doing a 3000 point list anyway.

[lordsquinty]

Jun 29, 2010 13:55:51 GMT Asurya said:

Well I'd imagine it'll be 3000 points to be honest. Players have spent their pennies on Lords on Dragons and they'll want to use them.

I'm back to square one with both my armies anyway, so it'll probably be a while before I can field a playable army.

My armies are all back to square one too.
And while I have bought Lords on Dragons, im leaning towards not shelling out the money to up all my armies by about 1500 pts each...

[PaleKing]

I was surprised to find that by putting my gaffer in a chariot and fielding my Giant, my WoC army is still playable. I have to trick it out with a few too many marks and magic items but it's still on the table. I think I'll work towards 3000pts and see how it feels on the table.

with 6000pts of models on the table and up to ten pieces of terrain in a standard pitched battle we might also find ourselves moving to 8' tables...

[gaarew]

Jun 29, 2010 15:33:07 GMT PaleKing said:

with 6000pts of models on the table and up to ten pieces of terrain in a standard pitched battle we might also find ourselves moving to 8' tables...

The cynically inclined might point out that that would necessitate buying the Realm of Battle expansion as well as the aforementioned 1500 points of infantry...

[bjornagain]

If you go to 3000pts it allows more rare and special options to be taken to allow bigger games.

2800pts is easily divided into 700pts for a quarter and 1400pts for a half.

[PaleKing]

Jun 29, 2010 21:25:33 GMT bjornagain said:

If you go to 3000pts it allows more rare and special options to be taken to allow bigger games.

Triple rares? Hopefully not, even in 3000pts...

[Big Dog]

Jun 30, 2010 11:58:33 GMT PaleKing said:

Jun 29, 2010 21:25:33 GMT bjornagain said:

If you go to 3000pts it allows more rare and special options to be taken to allow bigger games.

Triple rares? Hopefully not, even in 3000pts...

It's even worse it's quadrauple rares above 3k, I reckon it's all about the 2800 point games now. I'll need to try some 2250 first though.

[Agemman]

I don't think WFB will go to 3000pts for the very reason Bjorn & Bigdog mentioned. At 3000pts your army is considered a Grand army which allows access to some real filth, 4 Hydras, or 4 Steam tanks, or 4 Hellcannons, or 8 Reapeater Bolt Throwers! (mmmm now theres a idea) not to mention some of the special choice dirt you can get. But at 2999 or less points its only doubles.

There is a big thread on this on the Warhammer forum.

Anyways i think the 2800 mark is good, reason i can do the math for it easy

And on the subject of Dragon Lords you'll still get a Dark Elf one in at 2000pts no problem lol

[marlowe]

just be normal size or there abouts, lists will change dramatically in the long run anyway.