Cry Havoc points

[Alasandril]

Hi guys, we at D.W.A.R.F have been having a discussion recently concerning Cry Havoc. Some of our members feel we should try something slightly different from the norm regarding points.

Can i ask you guys to take a moment to vote on this poll and let us know what sort of points you would prefer and also maybe just answer the following few questions?

1, Would a tournament with different points to what is being used at SoS deter you from entering?

2, Do you feel that different points may be a good idea to challenge the way we build armies and approach tournaments.

3, Would you prefer 2250 because you have possibly worked towards a certain build and put the effort into the army and would prefer to use that over anything else?

If you have any general feedback at all please add it.

Your input would be greatly recieved as the Tourney is not just for DWARF, It's to attract as many like minded players as we possibly can for a fun day and we want to tailor the event to achieve this.

Many thanks in advance,

Brian

[GavX]

1. Different point costs is good with me, means people have to rethink there uber list of doom, and can add twists and what not.

2. As stated above, though not essential, different point costs can be good fun, 1999 for example means its more focused on troops rather than that 600point killing monster you have as your lord... on a dragon why not?

3. 2250 Is more the norm for me, I like using it, its a good size, my armies are able to go to that and still have room to chop and change units here and there.

Basically nothing wrong with 2250, but maybe one game as <2000 might prove interesting, in 2006 when SoS had a 1000point game, it was fast and frantic, always good combos

Hope this was a help

[warsmith]

I say keep with 2250... nothing to do with me just making my first WFB army 2250pts (due to that seem to be the Norm here & a few tournament seen to be useing these pts) honsty ;D

Jamie

[Asurya]

I have to be honest and say I prefer the 2250 points limit. However, it's not from a need to have a super duper amazingly killy Lord flying around on Dragon. It's more to do with the fact that at 1999 you limit players in another way.

Their 2nd Rare choice.

[primer]

i would need to buy and paint a new chaos army for 1999 and 1750 --not hapnin

[Alasandril]

I understand exactly where you're coming from mate.

I'm firmly behind the 2250 points games myself. One other option that is being discussed now, thanks to Gav X was the possibility of one of the games being a 1000pt game with the other 2 being std.

What's your feelings on that?

One other thing guys, feel free to pop over and join our forums so that we can have "outside" input into this.
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Brian

[PaleKing]

Personally I like 2250. Its the size where I think that WFB is at its most balanced while still being able to get three games in in a day. On the other hand I do think that being forced to think differently in games is invariably a good thing so I quite like the idea of smaller games too. 2250 would get my vote though.

[Big Dog]

2250 for me as I feel it is a fair points limit that gives you enough room for an expensive Lord and also the rest of your army. I wouldn't mind 1 game with a different points value or even a small warbands competition which could be cool but the tournament as a whole at anything below 2000 and it'd be doubtful if I'd attend. I feel the loss of the Lord and 2nd rare choice hurts some armies a lot more than others and as for it getting rid of some of the cheesier combo's it's a tournament so cheesy armies are expected.

[Scott]

Firstly, I can't go anyway as my army is Storm of Chaos and it's conveniently been labelled beardy and has been banned (yet VC and HE haven't been ).

Secondly, I voted 1,999. Simply because it annoys the more sensible people and as it's a tournament there'll be dragons (que je deteste) in 2,250.

[Big Dog]

xan said:

Firstly, I can't go anyway as my army is Storm of Chaos and it's conveniently been labelled beardy and has been banned (yet VC and HE haven't been ).

Secondly, I voted 1,999. Simply because it annoys the more sensible people and as it's a tournament there'll be dragons (que je deteste) in 2,250.

Pretty sure DWARF allowed SoC lists last year but I'm not certain and in any event the new Daemons will be out before Cry Havoc.

[Scott]

I don't know what they allow - I just listened in on two men (who will remain anonymous) moaning about it today when they were at work in GW.

[PaleKing]

Storm of Chaos is surely pretty redundant these days. They were sixth edition lists that were fun for something different during that campaign but should surely be shelved by now with regard to competitive tournaments.

[warsmith]

Xan you should not worry about your Daemon army, as big dog pointed out there army book is out in May & should be in use (from what I seen on there fourm) if out in time ;D Just like your brown ink it should be there in due time.

In general I like the idea of 1x game of 1000pts & the other two being 2250pts. For me just mean getting a WFB army painted & out the way other wise it will never happen if it all under 2000pts ;D

[bjornagain]

Im not keen about under 2000pts. I can beard an army at under 2000pts just as easy as over 2000pts.

[Agemman]

It's got to be 2250pts as most people build their armies for a tournament on a yearly basis with the above points cost being the key to it. Taking a lord away from a list is like getting your nuts cut off, so some people have had a bad experience against, Bret lord on Hippogryph, Minator Lords (dunno strugle in Beasts , Chaos lords on Dragon, High Elves on Dragon, Dark Elves on Dragon, Wood Elves on Dragon or Treeman Ancient with Annoyance, Empire Pope mobiles or Karl Franz on Dragon, Orc Boss on Wyvern, Ogre Kingdoms Tyrant with Tenderizer, Skaven Grey Seers, Tomb Kings of doom with Destroyer, Vampires on whatever, 2nd Gen Slann Dwarf Runesmith with anvil.

Did I miss any?

The point is these are the guys that make the games not break the games. If your army can't deal with it then something is wrong with YOUR army build not your so called "Beardy" opponent.

Has to be 2250 all the way Ignore the moaners who can't deal with something hard coming at them its the only way to learn